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JAMES SAYER
father of JAMES SAYER , WILLIAM SAYER , SUSANNA SAYER , ELIZABETH SAYER , MARTHA SAYER , JOHN SAYER , THOMAS TAYLOR SAYER , JOHN SAYER , ROBERT SAYER , EDWARD SAYER , JOHN SAYER , SAMUEL SAYER , BENJAMIN SAYER , CHARLES SAYER and JOSEPH SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives James Sayer born c1751 died 1854 married 1780 at Carbrooke to Elizabeth Sere born c1754 died 1833 and had children James Sayer born c1780, William Sayer born c1782, Susanna Sayer born c1783, Elizabeth Sayer born c1784, Martha Sayer born c1786, John Sayer born c1787, Thomas Taylor Sayer born c1788, Robert Sayer born c1789, Edmund Sayer born c1791, John Sayer born c1792, Benjamin Sayer born c1797, Charles Sayer born c1799, Joseph Sayer born c1800.
- 1780 James Sayer ba mar by banns Elizabeth Sere sp both of Carbrooke wit Philip Fuller and John Little.
- 1780 James Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1782 William Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1783 Susanna Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1784 Elizabeth Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1786 Martha Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1787 John Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth S.
- 1788 Thomas Taylor Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1789 John Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1789 Robert Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1791 Edmund Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1792 John Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1816 John Sayer aged 24 bur Carbrooke.
- 1793 Samuel Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1796 Benjamin Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1799 Charles Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1800 Joseph Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1829 Thomas Sayer, Mary Sayer his wife, and children by Thomas's first wife Elizabeth namely Samuel Sayer aged 12, James Sayer aged 9, Edward Sayer aged 9, Edward Sayer aged 7 and Elizabeth Sayer aged 4 in letter dated 11/4/1829 from overseers of poor at Carbrooke to those of Wickmere.
- 1833 Elizabeth Sayer aged 79 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with husband James Sayer bur 1836.
- 1836 James Sayer aged 85 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with wife Elizabeth Sayer bur 1833? and next grave to Edward Sayer bur 1859 and Charles Sayer bur 1878 near to grave of James Sayer bur 1897 and further away from Henry Sayer bur 1907 and Henry Sayer bur 1896.
- 1836 James Sayer farmer of Carbrooke will mentions son Edward Sayer, son in law Edmund Johnson, children of late dau Elizabeth, sons James, William, Thomas, Robert, Benjamin, Charles and Joseph, daus Susannah and Martha, and wit Younge and Fendick.


JAMES SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of MARTHA SAYER , MARY SAYER , JAMES SAYER , MARTHA SAYER and JOHN SAYER
- 1780 James Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1803 James Sare ba mar by banns Ann Platfoot? sp both of Carbrooke wit Susan Sare and John Raper.
- 1805 Martha Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of James and Ann Sayer.
- 1808 Mary Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of James S and Ann Sayer.
- 1810 James Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James S and Ann Sayer.
- 1812 Martha Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of James and Ann Sayer.
- 1816 John Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer lab and Ann Sayer of Carbrooke.

WILLIAM SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of CHARLES SAYER , FORTUNATE SAYER , JAMES SAYER , WILLIAM SAYER , THOMAS SAYER , MARY SAYER , MARTHA SAYER , REBECCA SAYER , ALICE SAYER and ELIZABETH SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives William Sayer of Carbrooke born c1804 died 1864 married 1804 to Elizabeth Raper (witnesses John Raper, Ann Sayer and Martha Sayer) and had children Charles Sayer born c1805, Fortunate Sayer born 1807 died 1889, James Sayer born c1809 died 1868, William Sayer born 1812 died 1865, Thomas Sayer born 1814 died 1885 married 1853 at Malcolm New York to Abigail Westover Clifford died 1884 and had children Elizabeth Sayer born 1853, John Calvin Sayer born 1854 died 1939, Silas A Sayer born 1856 died 1918, Sylvia Sayer born 1858 died 1933, Lillian Sayer born 1859 died 1931, William Sayer born 1860 died 1931, Harriet Sayer born 1864 and Mary Sayer born 1867 died 1902.
- 1782 William Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1804 William Sare ba mar by banns Elizabeth Raper sp both of Carbrooke wit Martha Sare and John Raper.
- 1805 Charles Sayer bap Carbrooke son of William and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1806 Fortune Sayer bap Carbrooke child of William Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1809 James Sayer bap Carbrooke son of William Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1812-1815 family of William and Elizabeth Sayer bap Wood Rising
- 1815 on family of William and Elizabeth Sayer bap Macomb USA
- 1841 Charles Sayer aged 35 lab born same county in census of Carbrooke with wife Mary Sayer aged 26 born same county.
- 1851 Charles Sayer aged 45 machineman born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with wife Mary Sayer aged 35 born Watton and James Ward aged 30 and Frances Hunter aged 4 both born Carbrooke.
- 1861 Charles Sayer aged 55 machineman born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with wife Mary Ann Sayer aged 43 born Watton and visitor Frances Hunton born Carbrooke.
- 1864 Mary Ann Sayer aged 48 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with husband Charles Sayer bur 1878.
- 1864 William Sayer of New York will mentions son Charles Sayer of Carbrook England, son Fortunatus Sayer of Macomb, sons James Sayer and William Sayer of Macomb, son Thomas of Fine New York, Mary wife of John Johnson, Martha wife of Robert Johnson of Oswegatchie New York, Rebecca wife of Thomas Johnson of Berry Canada West, Alice wife of Frederick Charter, a dau of Elizabeth Knight his deceased dau.
- 1878 Charles Sayer aged 75 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with wife Mary Ann Sayer bur 1864.

THOMAS TAYLOR SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of SAMUEL TAYLOR SAYER , MARY ANNE SAYER , ELIZABETH SAYER and EDWARD SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives Thomas Taylor Sayer labourer of Carbrooke born c1788 Carbrooke married to Elizabeth and had children Samuel Taylor Sayer born c1817, Mary Anne Sayer born 1818, Elizabeth Sayer born c1825 and Edward Sayer born 1823.
- 1788 Thomas Taylor Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1815 Thomas Taylor Sayer ba mar by banns Carbrooke Elizabeth Wymer both of Carbrooke, wit Edward Sayer and Mary Sayer of Carbrooke.
- 1828 Mary Ann S aged 10 of Carbrooke bur Carbrooke.
- 1828 Thomas Taylor Sayer wid mar by banns Carbrooke Mary Elsagood Collins sp.

ROBERT SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of THOMAS DAVID SAYER and HARRIET SWENTON SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives Robert Sayer labourer born c1789 married to Sophia and had children Harriet Swenton Sayer born c1814 and Thomas David Sayer born 1812.
- 1789 Robert Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer nee Sare.
- 1812 Thomas David Sayer bap Carbrooke son of Robert and Sophia Sayer.
- 1814 Harriet Swenton Sayer bap Carbrooke dau of Robert Sayer lab and Sophia Sayer of Carbrooke.

BENJAMIN SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of HENRY SAYER , THOMAS SAYER and SUSAN SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives Benjamin Sayer farmer of Carbrooke born c1797 at Carbrooke married 1818 to Margaret Newson born c1797 and had children Henry Sayer born c1842 at Shoreditch and Thomas Sayer born 1844 at Shoreditch.
- 1796 Benjamin Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James Sayer and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1851 Benjamin Sayer aged 54 farmer born Carbrooke in census of Cordell Spring Carbrooke with wife Margaret Sayer aged 54 born Carbrooke, sons Henry Sayer aged 9 and Thomas Sayer aged 7 both born Shoreditch and servant Mary Thimblethope aged 19 born Carbrooke.
- 1861 Benjamin Sayer aged 63 retired farmer born Carbrooke in census of Watton Road Carbrooke with wife Margaret Sayer aged 64, son Thomas Sayer aged 17 and dau Susan Sayer aged 15 both born Shoreditch.
- 1871 Benjamin Sayer aged 73 in census of Carbrooke with his family.
- 1881 Benjamin Sayer aged 83 retired farmer born Carbrooke in census of Cawdwell Green Carbrooke with wife Margaret Sayer aged 84 born Carbrooke and grandson Thomas Sayer aged 37 ag lab born London

CHARLES SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of MARIA SAYER , HARRIET SAYER , JAMES SAYER , CHARLES WISEMAN SAYER , SOPHIA SAYER , JOHN SAYER , CAROLINE SAYER and THOMAS SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives Charles Sayer of Carbrooke born c1799 at Carbrooke married firstly in 1820 to Sophia Parker and had children Maria Sayer born c1824, Harriet Sayer born c1824 and James Sayer born 1826 and married secondly at Carbrooke in 1827 to Elizabeth Parker and had children Charles Wiseman Sayer born c1828, Sophia Sayer born c1832, John Sayer born c1834, Caroline Sayer born c1836 and Thomas Sayer born 1836.
- 1799 Charles S bap Carbrooke son of James S and Elizabeth S.
- 1826 Sophia S aged 27 of Carbrooke bur Carbrooke.
- 1827 Charles S wid mar by banns Carbrooke Elizabeth Parker sp.
- 1881 Thomas Sayer aged 45 boot maker born Carbrooke in census of 11 Gloster Street Bethnal Green with wife Elizabeth aged 49 born City of London and niece Elizabeth M Bowers aged 10 born Greenwich


EDWARD SAYER
son of JAMES SAYER father of THOMAS TAYLOR SAYER , JOHN SAYER , ELIZABETH SAYER , JAMES SAYER , EDWARD SAYER , MARTHA SAYER , HARRIET SAYER and FRANCES SAYER
- Patrick Palgrave in Norfolk Pedigrees gives Edmund Sayer shoemaker born c1791 died 1859 married 1813 to Mary Gall born c1794 and had children Thomas Taylor Sayer born c1814, John Sayer born c1816, Elizabeth Sayer born c1825, James Sayer born c1822 cordwainer married Ann born c1824, Edward Sayer born c1825, Martha Sayer born c1827, Harriet Sayer born c1828 and Frances Sayer born c1831.
- 1791 Edmund Sayer bap Carbrooke son of James S and Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1813 Edward Sayer ba mar by banns Carbrooke Mary Gall both of Carbrooke, wit Thomas Sayer and John Raper.
- 1814 Thomas Taylor Sayer baptised Carbrooke son of Edward Sayer shoemaker and Mary Sayer of Carbrooke.
- 1816 Thomas Sayer aged 2 buried Carbrooke son of Edward Sayer shoemaker and Mary Sayer of Carbrooke.
- 1816 John Sayer baptised Carbrooke son of Edward Sayer shoemaker and Mary Sayer of Carbrooke.
- 1821 Elizabeth Sayer aged 2 of Carbrooke bur Carbrooke.
- 1841 John Sayer aged 23 shoeman born same county in census of Caston with wife Mary Sayer aged 20 and Mary Sayer aged 8m and Martha Sayer aged 12 farm servant.
- 1851 Edward Sayer aged 58 cord winder born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with wife Mary Sayer aged 57 born Carbrooke and daus Elizabeth Sayer aged 26 and Martha Sayer aged 23 and grand dau Martha A Sayer aged 1. Next door to James Sayer.
- 1851 Francis Sayer aged 19 house servant born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with employer Thomas Edward Scott.
- 1851 James Sayer aged 28 cordwainer born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with wife Ann Sayer aged 27 born Carbrooke.
- 1851 Mary Ann Murrell wid aged 35 dressmaker born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with son James Murrell aged 2 born Caston.
- 1859 Edward Sayer aged 67 of Carbrooke bur Carbrooke (in register).
- 1859 Edward Sayer aged 68 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with wife Mary Sayer bur 1866.
- 1861 Mary Sayer aged 67 retired woman not born Carbrooke in census of Church Street Carbrooke with grandson James Murrell aged 12 born Caston and grand dau Martha A Sayer aged 10 born Caston.
- 1861 James Sayer aged 39 shoemaker born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with wife Ann Sayer aged 37 born Carbrooke.
- 1866 Mary Sayer aged 71 of Carbrooke bur Carbrooke (in register).
- 1866 Mary Sayer aged 71 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with husband Edward Sayer bur 1859.
- 1878 Ann S bur Carbrooke Churchyard with husband James S bur 1897.
- 1881 James Murrell aged 32 railway guard born Caston in census of Goodwins Field, South Lynn with wife Jane Murrell aged 29 born Orrington and children William Murrell aged 6 born Watton and Rosie Murrell aged 4 born Swaffham.
- 1881 James Sayer aged 58 shoemaker born Carbrooke in census of Church Street Carbrooke with wife Elizabeth Sayer aged 48 born Barningbroom
- 1881 John Sayer aged 65 farm bailiff born Carbrooke in census of Attleboro Road Caston with wife Mary A Sayer aged 60 born Caston and son Edward I Sayer aged 21 tailor born Caston
- 1881 Edw Sayer aged 55 boot maker born Carbrooke in census of 2 Powell Road Hackney with wife Susan S aged 47 born Southwark and children Emily F Sayer aged 21, Clara B Sayer aged 20 and Agnes M Sayer aged 18 all born Tottenham and visitor Henry Kington
- 1897 James S aged 74 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with wife Ann S bur 1878.


ELIZABETH SAYER
daughter of EDWARD SAYER mother of MARTHA ANN HARRIET SAYER
- 1850 Martha Ann Harriet S born Caston dau of Elizabeth Sayer reported by James Murrell occupier Caston.
- 1851 Elizabeth Sayer in census of Carbrooke with father Edward Sayer and daughter Martha A Sayer aged 1.


MARTHA ANN (HARRIET) SAYER
daughter of ELIZABETH SAYER
- 1850 Lamus family bible gives Martha Lamus born 3/3/1850.
- 1850 Martha Ann Harriet Sayer born 3/3/1850 Caston dau of Elizabeth S reported by James Murrell occupier Caston.
- 1851 Martha A Sayer aged 1 in census of Carbrooke with grandfather Edward Sayer and mother Elizabeth Sayer.
- 1861 Martha A Sayer aged 10 in census of Carbrooke with grandmother Mary Sayer.
- 1870 Martha Ann Sayer aged 21 sp of 6 New Street dau of James Sayer boot maker mar 25 Dec Christ Church Clapham William Lamus (see Lummis) aged 22 ba shopman of 6 New Street son of William Lamus gamekeeper, wit George Leeks and Harriet Layell.
- 1881 William Lamus (Lamers) aged 31 leather seller master born Ovington in census of 24 Orchard Street Wandsworth with wife Martha Lamus aged 31 born Easton Norfolk and children Albert Lamus aged 4 born Old Kent Road Surrey and Maud Lamus aged 1 born Wandsworth and step brother George Reeder aged 20 porter draper born Neaton Norfolk.
- 1891 William Lamus aged 41 general lab born Ovington in census on 5.4.1891 of 24 Orchard Street with wife Martha A Lamus aged 41 born Carbrook and children Albert E Lamus aged 14 errand boy born Camberwell Maud Lamus aged 11 Edith Lamus aged 7 George Lamus aged 5 and William Lamus all born Wandsworth.
- 1891 Ernest Lamus born 24 Orchard Street Wandsworth son of William Lamus general labourer and Martha Ann Lamus formerly Sayers reported by mother.
- 1905 Martha Ann Lamus died 17 Dec 6 Elmsleigh Road aged 55 wife of William Lamus house painter journeyman died of pleurisy bronchitis Lyncope? reported by William Lamus widower of deceased.



FUTURE LINES OF ENQUIRY
- 1751 James Sayer bapt 3/1/1751 at Saxingham Nethergate son of John and Charity Sayer in IGI batch 8403732
- 1753 James Sayer bapt 17/10/1753 at Saint George Colegate Norwich son of Samuel and Susanna Sayer in IGI batch C048011
- 1754 Elizabeth Sayer bapt 14/7/1754 at Tivetshall daughter of John and Mary Sayer in IGI batch 8403732
- 1826 Elizabeth Sayer aged 32 of Carbrooke buried Carbrooke.
- 1833 Samuel Sayer Newson of Carbrooke infant buried Carbrooke.
- 1851 Samuel Sayer Newson of Carbrooke infant buried Carbrooke.
- 1851 Susan Sayer house servant born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with Francis Newson aged 15.
- 1858 Thomas Edward Sayer aged 4 of Carbrooke buried Carbrooke.
- 1861 Lucy Sayer aged 46 gentlewoman born Brunton in census of Watton Road Carbrooke.
- 1861 William Sayer aged 30 leather merchant born Carbrooke in census of Carbrooke with niece Martha Sayer housekeeper born Caston.
- 1864 Elizabeth Sayer aged 5 of Carbrooke buried Carbrooke.
- 1864 Elizabeth Sayer buried Carbrooke Churchyard with father Henry Sayer bur 1896.
- 1875 Susan Sayer buried Carbrooke Churchyard with husband Henry Sayer buried 1896.
- 1881 Alban Sayer aged 30 farm bailiff 112 acres 4 men 1 boy born Rockland St Peter in census of Town Green, Great Ellingham with wife Catherine Sayer aged 30 born Downham Market and children Eveline Sayer aged 13 born Scoulton and Edith Sayer aged 11m born Rockland St Mary
- 1881 Arthur Sayer aged 32 farmer of 116 acres 3 men 1 boy born Rockland All Saints in census of Scoulton Road Rockland St Peter with wife Lydia Sayer aged 29 born Little Ellingham and children Alice Sayer aged 9, Mabel Sayer aged 8, Beatrice May Sayer aged 6, Florence Mary Sayer aged 5 and Ida Sayer aged 2 all born Rockland St Peter
- 1881 Henry Sayer aged 62 publican and corn dealer born Carbrooke in census of New Inn Rockland St Mary with wife Susan Sayer aged 46 born Carbrooke and children Edward J Sayer aged 20 coal carter born Edmonton Middlesex, Louisa E Sayer aged 16 born Carbrook and Florence M Sayer born Rockland, and son in law Henry C Watson aged 16 born Rockland.
- 1881 Mary Sayer aged 55 dressmaker born Carbrooke in census of Norwich Road Watton with daughter Maria Sayer aged 27 born Watton dressmaker
- 1881 Rebecca Sayer aged 71 coal merchant born Rockland in census of Gallants Lane, East Harling
- 1881 William Sayer aged 72 lab farm born Stow Bridge in census of Thetford Road Brandon with wife Sarah Sayer aged 70 born Caston
- 1881 William Sayer aged 50 farmer of 300 acres 7 labs 3 boys born Carbrooke in census of High Street Watton with wife Matilda Sayer aged 42 born Rockland and children Edward Sayer aged 13, William Sayer aged 11, Anna Sayer aged 8, Alfred Sayer aged 7 and Harry Sayer aged 3 all born Watton
- 1881 James Sayer aged 44 smith born Carbrooke in census of 57 Lessada Street Bethnal Green with wife Elizabeth aged 46 born Carbrooke and children Jamnes Sayer aged 18 born Carbrooke and Margaret Sayer aged 17, Herbert Sayer aged 15, Frances Sayer aged 12, Richard sayer aged 10 and Walter Sayer aged 7 all born Bethnal Green
- 1881 James Sayer aged 24 warehouseman born Carbrooke in census of 15 Ballance Road Hackney with wife Sophie aged 22 born Bethnal Green and children Annie Sayer aged 2 born Bethnall Green and Elizabeth Sayer aged 8m born Hackney
- 1889 John Henry Sayer born Manistree Michigan, son of John Calvin S 1854-1939, mar 1913 Abbie Cora Dussell.
- 1896 Henry Sayer aged 77 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with wife Susan S bur 1875 and dau Elizabeth S bur 1864.
- 1907 Henry Sayer born 1851 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with wife Sarah Ann S bur 1915.
- 1915 Sarah Ann Sayer born 1838 bur Carbrooke Churchyard with husband Henry S bur 1907.


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