Information that is Probably about Thomas Daniel and his family

THOMAS

PROBABILITY:1 - Thomas Danyells in various roles - see fine:25, 26, 28 and 29 where in 1445-6 a Thomas Danyell was one of the parliamentary representatives for Cornwall - see fine:31 and publicrecords:47 where in 1446 a Thomas Danyell was sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk - see patent:122 and 127 for commissions of the peace in Buckinghamshire in 1446-7 - see patent:128 and 132 for commissions of the peace in Norfolk in 1447-8 - see fine:34 and 35 where in 1449 a Thomas Danyell was one of the parliamentary representatives for Buckingham - see patent:137 for a commission of the peace in Oxfordshire in 1449 - see patent:138 for a commission of oyer and terminer in Northamptonshire in 1450 - see patent:139 for a commission of oyer and terminer in Oxfordshire in 1450 - see patent:145, 149, 151, 157, 160, 161 and 190 for post of sheriff in Suffolk in 1451 but referred to later - see patent:162 and 163 for commissions of array in Norfolk in 1457 - see patent:202, 203 and 204 where in 1469-70 a Thomas Danyell was on commissions in Norfolk with William Husey and the Duke of Clarence and others - see patent:228 and publicrecords:77 where in 1480-1 a Thomas Danyell was sheriff of London.

PROBABILITY:2 - Thomas Danyell and the dowager Duchess of Norfolk- see patent:130 and patent:212 for Thomas Danyell with John, archbishop of Canterbury, Humphrey, duke of Buckingham, Thomas, bishop of Ely, William, bishop of Winchester, Adam, bishop of Chichester, John, earl of Shrewsbury, Robert, lord of Willughby, Henry Inglose, knight, Edmund Stapilton, Henry Bradfeld, clerk, Edmund Mille, Edmund Fitz William, John Tymperley and Thomas Bataill being made responsible in 1448 for estates of Katherine dowager Duchess of Norfolk and in 1472 for estates of Eleanor dowager Duchess of Norfolk

PROBABILITY:3 - Thomas Danyell and his bride - see - see bell:1 and the Visitation of Suffolk made by William Harvey Clarenceux King of Arms in 1561 with additions by Jermyn, Davy and others, and edited by Joseph Jackson Howard in 1866 for the marriage of Thomas Danyell to Margaret Howard the daughter of Robert Howard and Margaret Mowbray.

PROBABILITY:4 - Thomas Danyell and Margaret Howard had a son Edmund Danyell - see fact:15 and probability:3 for Thomas Danyell marrying Margaret Danyell - see bell:1 and the Visitation of Suffolk made by William Harvey Clarenceux King of Arms in 1561 with additions by Jermyn, Davy and others, and edited by Joseph Jackson Howard in 1866 for the marriage of Thomas Danyell to Margaret Howard and their son Edmund Danyell - see fact:33 for reference to nephew Danyell by John Howard in his household books - see fact:34 for references to a little Edmund, often appearing immediately after children of John Howard - see fact:35 for reference to child Edmund (Edmund Danyell would be less than 16 then but the term child seems to imply younger than that) - see fact:36 for references to Edmund (but we need to be careful as Edmund Gorges (future son in law of John Howard) was also a member of the household) - see fact:77 for references between 1471 and 1483 to Edmund Danyell - see fact:78 for references in 1483 to an Edward Danyell (probably mis-spelling of Edmund but maybe not) - see fact:79 for references in 1482 to a master Edmund Danyell - see fact:80 for references in period 1481 to 1483 to a master Danyell who may or not be Edmund Danyell - see fact:81 for references in 1488 to a gentleman Edmund Danyell and an Edward Nevill [whose mothers may have been the sisters Margaret and Catherine Howard] and others involved in a trespass- see will:2 for reference in 1495 to Edmund Danyell as executor of the will of Dowager Duchess of Norfolk (nee Margaret Chedworth) [note that little Edmund first appears in Household Books of John Howard at about the time John Howard married Margaret Chedworth] - see will:4 for will in 1498 of Edmund Danyell where the testator mentions prayers for Margaret Howard - see sims:20 for will of Jane Radmylde (daughter of Margaret Howard nee Chedworth) and her mention of her cousin Grace Danyell.

PROBABILITY:5 - Thomas Danyell and the dowager Duchess of Norfolk - see fact:14 where in 1472 Thomas Danyell still has the role in this estate referred to above in probabilities:2.

PROBABILITY:6 - Thomas Danyell's tomb - Blomefield; an Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk by Charles Parkin 1808; volume 9 page 113 has Thomas Danyell buried in the St James Chantry of St Peters Church Walpole, the latter having been built by Thomas Danyell under a patent of Edward 4 in 1477; arms shown argent, four fusils in pale, sable.

PROBABILITY:7 - Troutbeck family - History of the County Palatine and City of Chester by George Ormerod edited by Thomas Helsby in 1882: has on page 42 of volume 2 a genealogy for the Troutbeck family showing Sir John Troutbeck 1414-1460 chamberlain of Chester had only two sons Sir William Troutbeck 1437- and John Troutbeck a chancery priest.

PROBABILITY:8 - Danyell family of Melling and Acton - see the Visitation of Suffolk made by William Harvey Clarenceux King of Arms in 1561 with additions by Jermyn, Davy and others, and edited by Joseph Jackson Howard in 1866 for the following: Thomas Danyell, Knight, created Lord of Rathwyer by Kinge Edwarde the fourth, maried ? sister to Thomas [should be John], Duke of Norff., and had yssue Edmonde Danyell, sonne and heire: Edmonde Danyell, sonne and heire to Thomas Lorde Danyell, maryed Grace, daughter & heire of Sir Richard Baynarde, Knight, & hath yssue Edmund, sonne and heire, John, seconde sonne, Thomas, third sonne, George, fourth sonne, Edward, fyfte sonne, Margaret maryed to Grene, of Wyttam, in the Countie of Essex; Jane maryed to Sr. John Jermyn, of Metffeld [chronology makes this unlikely, she maybe sister rather than daughter of Edmund], in com. Suff.; Elizabeth, Abbas of Mallyn; Katherin dyed sanz yssue: Thomas Danyell, of Acton, thirde sonne to Edmond, maryed to his firste wyffe Anne, daughter to Sr. Edmond Lucye, of ?, in the Countie of Warwyke, Knyght, & by her hath yssue Edmond, sonne and heire. After the said Thomas Danyell maried to his seconde wyffe ffrauncis, daughter to John Butler, of Coventry, in the Countie of Warwyke, wch ffrauncis was maryed to Edmond ffelton, of Pentlow, in the Countie of Essex, & had yssue by him George ffelton, sonne and heire, Dunstable ffelton, Edmonde ffelton, John ffelton, William ffelton, William ffelton, & Anne ffelton:......

PROBABILITY:9 - Thomas Danyell the younger involved in Treasury - see fact:66 and dnb:1 for career in the Treasury from 1516 till 1554 of Thomas Danyell and then his further career in the mint of the Tower of London.

PROBABILITY:10 - Pedwardines - see the Visitation of Wiltshire in 1623 in Harleian 1165 73a for Elizabeth widow of Sir William Hussey (to whom Burton Pedwardine has been granted on attainder) married Sir Walter Pedwardine (who held manor of Clipston).

PROBABILITY:11 - 1505 Jane Braunch - - Blomefield; an Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk by Charles Parkin 1808; volume 9 page 441 has will of Jane Braunch widow dated 17/4/1505 where Jane Braunch called Jane Daniel her niece.

PROBABILITY:12 - Danyell family of Stoke juxta Clare - see the Visitation of Suffolk made by William Harvey Clarenceux King of Arms in 1561 with additions by Jermyn, Davy and others, and edited by Joseph Jackson Howard in 1866 for the following: Pyrse Danyell, of Darsbury Hall, in the Countie of Chesshire., maryed ? daughter of ? and by her had yssue: George, sonne & heire, Peyrse Danyell, second sonne, Randolfe, third sonne, Hugh, fourth sonne: Hugh Danyell, of Stoke juxta Clare, in the Countie of Suff., gent., maryed Jone daughter of John Coote, of Horinger, in the Counti of Suff., Esquire, & had yssue George, sonne and heire; Agnes maryed to Charles Rattlyffe, of Hunden, in the Countye of Suff., gent.; Margarett, maryed to Thomas Tyrell, of Heron, in the Countie of Essex, gent., Jone, maryed to Richard Topshefe, of Coxsale, in the Countye of Essex: George Danyell, of Stoke juxta Clare, sonne and heire to Hugh Danyell, maryed Dorothe, daughter to ? Baylye, of ypswiche, & at this tyme had no yssue lyvinge.

PROBABILITY:13 - Danyell family of Wiltshire - see the Visitation of Wiltshire in 1623 in Harleian 1165 73a for the following: William Daniell of Daresbury Cheshire had children Thomas Daniell miles son and heir, Robert Daniell, Peirse Danyell, Hugh daniell, and Henry Daniell: Peirse Danyell the third son married Jane daughter of Adam Birkehead, armiger and had son and heir Peirse Daniell of Budworth: this son Peirse Danyell married Margaret daughter and heiress of ? Savage of Cheshire and had children George Daniell son and heir, Geoffrey Daniell of St Margarets Wiltshire, Hugh daniell, Peter Daniell, Margaret Daniell married William Starkie of Bidworth Cheshire, eleanor Daniell married Robert Baker: George Daniell the second son had son and heir William Daniell of St Margarets Wiltshire -1621.

PROBABILITY:14 - Thomas Danyell and Norfolk manors - Blomefield; an Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk by Charles Parkin 1808; volume 8 pages 383 and 388 have Congham Manor released to Thomas Daniel esquire in 1446 by the Paston family and Thomas Danyell presented as lord in 1448 and 1475; Thomas Danyell chose the rector Roger Ashton in 1448.

PROBABILITY:15 - Thomas Danyell and Norfolk manors - Blomefield; an Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk by Charles Parkin 1808; volume 8 pages 428 and 443 have Geyton Well Hall conveyed in 1451 by Henry Wodehouse to Thomas Danyell esquire together with lands in Wells, Grimston, Congham, etc.

PROBABILITY:16 - Thomas Danyell and Norfolk manors - Blomefield; an Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk by Charles Parkin 1808; volume 8 pages 428 and 443 have Geyton Well Hall conveyed in 1451 by Henry Wodehouse to Thomas Danyell esquire together with lands in Wells, Grimston, Congham, etc.

PROBABILITY:17 - Danyells with a Chedworth connection see sims:11 - Chedworth connection - these were probably members of Danyell family of Walsoken.

PROBABILITY:18 - John Norreys - there was a John Norreys who was a contemporary of Thomas Danyell in the royal household - a John Norreys was the second husband of Margaret Chedworth who was later the wife of John Howard - presumably these are the same John Norreys sims:1 - Margaret Chedworth.